So soft, and SO well made. Once you touch these you're a goner. Now let's talk fit. If you are a little hippy you will love these as they lay perfectly. Many Athleta pants seem to pull at the side pockets for me which is not flattering. I usually have to size up to get the pocket to lay flat or sew ...them together. Not with these. I see lots of comments on how they run "big". Well, yes, they may for some people, but they are not fitted pants. They are the perfect blend of loose and fitted at the same time. And the fabric...quality. Soft like the Seasoft pant on the outside, with a very fine and breathable terry on the inside. One of the best quality pants I have seen at Athleta and that is saying a lot because every pant I have bought there have been top quality. I loved the Retroterry pair I bought in person so much I went the next day and immediately bought another pair. I took my true size L in these. Usually wear a L in the Venice Jogger. These seem to run the same length as the Venice Jogger. The bottom is not a cuff, though. So, the bottom is not finished with a cuff. No biggie. The gray-blue is a pretty light slate, by the way. So you will get a quality pair of pants you will find flattering, not too long in the length, and oh... so cozy.